"Broad Street"- interesting death clues?

[fourthousandholes]

There's an arrow over his lip, pointing to his eye.

[Mellow Yellow]

Ooh, baby, you couldnt have done a worse thing to me
If youda taken an arrow and run it right through me.-- Arrow Through Me, Wings 1979 Back to the Egg LP.

[plastic paul]

fourthousandholes said:

There's an arrow over his lip, pointing to his eye.

You are right, that's odd.

[fourthousandholes]

I had assumed that the arrow was some sort of positioning mark for where the Paul image was
to appear on the piano; something perhaps bleeding through the back of a photograph even.
But today SunKing at TKIN posted a picture of the man he says is Paul today at this link:

60if.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=Essential&action=display&thread=1088065816&page=2

Note in reply # 26 the scar that he has highlighted.
There's a peak in the scar fairly close to what appears to be the arrow in the picture above.
I'm not saying that proves anything; just that it's curious.
As I've said before, I think BeatlePaul does get some inside information, even if he doesn't
express it well. This instance gives me pause.
In fact, and I kinda hate to say this, if you look to the immediate left of the peak of the scar BP highlights
when it isn't "lit", you'll see a similar arrow on the face of the gentleman, with the right part
of the point in the area that gets illuminated; kind of grey in appearence.
If I had the computer skills, I'd show it with a flashing red arrow.
What are the odds that two people would have identicle arrow indentations on their face?
Now I really have to give this some consideration, but don't be fooled by that image from the
"Free as a Bird" video. It's leaves and distant buildings reflected in the glass.

[CoconutFudge]

Wow, all of this seems to be pretty big to me. I don't know if my eyes are playing tricks on me because I've been reading all day, but... I mean... I do see the similarities. That is a pretty odd scar. I was always skeptical of SunKing's ideas because he tends to change around his story despite his "inside information," but...

Hmm.

[-Wings-]

Sun King's claims should be easy to dismiss if we can figure out the source of that image and who that man (who superficially resembles McCartney in head shape but not much else) is.

For the record, I still think the piano reflection is indeed a photo of James Paul McCartney, alive and well, in the '80s. That's not the face of a twenty something man, especially with added weight gain in the jowel area.

[jilly]

One of the things I noticed in this picture is the microphone. The bottom of the microphone in the top half of the picture is tilted in toward Faul. So the bottom picture is the same view or same side of the microphone that is showing in the top of the picture. The microphone in the bottom of the picture clearly has a white 8 printed on it. The microphone in the top of the picture clearly does not.

One other thing on the bottom picture u can see the wall behind Paul on the top of the picture the wall is blurred out.

I checked this picture over in photoshop and I added light and contrast to the picture and still it did not bring out an 8 in the top of the photo. I think they are 2 different pictures. One of the other things I noticed when I added light to the photo was that I couldnt bring the shadows in the nose up on the top of the photo, like the shadows are on the nose on the bottom of the photograph. There are no shadows on the nose in the top of the photograph. I dont know if it is the same man or not, but I dont think they are the same picture.

One other thing on the bottom of the picture u can see the wall behind Paul and on the top of the picture the wall is blurred out.

[plastic paul]

jilly said:

One of the things I noticed in this picture is the microphone. The bottom of the microphone in the top half of the picture is tilted in toward Faul. So the bottom picture is the same view or same side of the microphone that is showing in the top of the picture. The microphone in the bottom of the picture clearly has a white 8 printed on it. The microphone in the top of the picture clearly does not.

When I just read that, I wasn't sure if it made sense, thinking that the reflection comes from the other side of the microphone, however I can't work it out quite right in my head if that is correct, so you may well be onto something.

[jilly]

Maybe this will help:



I moved the picture of the piano up next to the other microphone and righted it and reversed it so the microphones are facing the same direction.

I dont know anything about microphones but this one seems to have a rectangle on the speaker part. You can see the band with the clip on the side facing the camera that holds it to the microphone. The square part is facing Faul. If we were seeing the other side of the microphone the rectangle would be facing us and the clip would be on the other side and we couldnt see the clip, we would see the rectangle.

[The Deceptionist]

jilly said:

The microphone in the bottom of the picture clearly has a white 8 printed on it. The microphone in the top of the picture clearly does not.

There is an 8 there. What you need to do in Photoshop is adjust the 'levels' (Image>Adjustments>Levels) Drag the three pointers toward the right of the levels graph and it'll start showing up. The reason you can't see it in the original photo is because it is white [tippex?] and from the angle of the photographer to the mic there are lights bleaching it out. You can see it in the piano reflection because the light doesn't cast as heavily from that angle

[B]

I think the picture was supposed to be a literal representation of the idea that Faul reflects Paul.
That Faul represents Paul, in other words.

[mommybird]

That's a very good interpretation, LetterB. I think that you might very well be right about that one.

[mindgames]

his reflection looks like a classic mop top Beatle photo.

[jilly]

Thanks for pointing that out Deceptionist. I did try it like u said and saw the 8 but I didnt get the blue like u did. Dang and I thought I was on to something too hahahahahha

[fabboy]

hey g

[fabboy]

Hey guys, first post here. PAUL didn't die. He planned it all way back in early 66, probably thought about it sometime in '65 during help. MANY MANY SONG CLUES from the albums leading up to PEPPER. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE REAL PAUL, go to YOUTUBE and type in PAUL MCCARTNEY ON CHANNEL 4 NEWS (1984)>THAT IS THE JPM1. LOOK AT THE FACE, LISTEN TO THE ACCENT. IT IS NOT FAUL. GUYS, good old JPM PULLED a fast one on all of us. the real clues were the secondary clues in those late 60s beatles records, not the blatant DEATH CLUES. JUST LOOK AT THE FACE on that youtube interview>NOT LONG, BUT ROUNDED, JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL.

[fabboy]

AND ONE MORE THING, he's got that old JPM 'cute face', like he did before sept, '66. the FAUL character never had that look! so Paul has been popping in and out throughout the years, but really started back in the public eye around give my regards to broadstreet. He probably had enough of FAUL getting all the glory for HIS work. PAUL WROTE ALL OF FAULS SONGS. Just think about it guys, Paul sang those songs on Sgt. peppers, and he played on every beatles album after the 'public replacement 'PAUL', came into the picture. there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT FAUL COULD EVER WRITE SONGS OF THAT CALIBUR on arrival. they had JPM's STAMP ALL OVER THEM. JOHN had his songs, and Paul, his. And he would NEVER let faul sing songs on such a classic record as PEPPER or MMT, abbey road. The only thing Paul allowed Faul to do would be to sing, PUBLICLY ON FILM, a few of his Pauls penned songs. Which he probably did as a big THANK YOU to FAUL for allowing PAUL to 'SLIP OUT', so to speak. It makes sense now and THAT youtube VIDEO WAS clear as it gets. now i need to go to my GIVE MY REGARDS TO BROADSTREET dvd and find more of the real Paul Mccartney.

Just think, if you had the chance to slip back in, unnoticed, wouldnt you? He did it and only a few people truly know this. She's leaving home, bye bye> doesnt sound like a Paul is Dead lyric to me. There are plenty of other clues that tell us>he's not dead, he just left. but never really did leave. like i said earlier, those songs were TOO FRIGGIN AMAZING FOR ANYONE ELSE BUT JPM TO HAVE WRITTEN. Beatle BILL wrote only a little. Probably the wings stuff that sucked. Although im sure Paul wrote the good wings material. And believe me, there was some very good early WINGS MUSIC. it started to die later on and thats probably when FAUL believed he could do it himself. JPM is the master song writer here folks, not FAUL. ANYWAY, thats my take and may i introduce myself to you>my name is Scott.

and one more thing; you gotta look at things on a simpler plane sometimes. I think the rest of the beatles got tired of this charade and after 4 years, they just had enough. Sometimes the answers are right in front of us when they are kept simple.

Just remember folks, JPM is right in front of us. just check out the PAUL MCCARTNEY ON CHANNEL 4 NEWS. (1984), and you'll see Paul as he was when he was 42 years old. Looks about that age to me from that clip. WOW!!!!

[P(D)enny La(i)ne]

Dec 29, 2010 0:04:55 GMT -5 fabboy said:

Hey guys, first post here. PAUL didn't die. He planned it all way back in early 66, probably thought about it sometime in '65 during help. MANY MANY SONG CLUES from the albums leading up to PEPPER. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE REAL PAUL, go to YOUTUBE and type in PAUL MCCARTNEY ON CHANNEL 4 NEWS (1984)>THAT IS THE JPM1. LOOK AT THE FACE, LISTEN TO THE ACCENT. IT IS NOT FAUL. GUYS, good old JPM PULLED a fast one on all of us. the real clues were the secondary clues in those late 60s beatles records, not the blatant DEATH CLUES. JUST LOOK AT THE FACE on that youtube interview>NOT LONG, BUT ROUNDED, JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL.

Here's the interview fabboy is referring to.

[fabboy]

thanks for putting that up Pdenny laine. You could see, from this interview, how 'cheeky' Paul was. And remember how Paul was back in the early beatle days. Very cheeky, very quick witted and funny to. The Faul we have all come to know has more of a low key, dry wit about him. Very different personalities. This is Paul Mccartney. Now i'm new to this board and i love the open mindedness here, and the man who made the point, earlier in this thread, about how he was in a car crash and how his face had been damaged, makes a very interesting point. After that, he may have just NOT wanted to be seen like that in public. Especially after being the 'cute one' since day one. It's a good possibility. I can't really comment on the whole mafia angle. I think i need a bit more on that before i believe that one. But the car crash angle does sound very plausible. I still think Paul wanted out for quite a while before that though. To me; the best messages are the lead up from the lyrics from HELP, RUBBER SOUL, AND REVOLVER. there's a lot there if you dig deeper. And i want to thank all you guys for ridiculing my first few posts. I know, that as a newbie here, i should have probably eased into it a little slower, but i have done a fair amount of my own research, with the pics, the motives, the fake AND the real clues, that i felt that i had to chime in on all this right away. You all have a blessed day and a very happy new year.

Also, it sounds exactly like Paul's voice, Pre -1966 replacement. Same intonations, same accent. Same liverpool accent. FAUL never really got the original JPM voice right. Just listen to the old film recordings of Paul and its a dead ringer for the voice on this interview. Its funny, we all want to know exactly what happened to the nearest detail, but to me, i'm just happy to know, in my heart of hearts, that Paul really didnt die back in 1966. He lived, and he's been writing amazing songs ever since. Hats of to PAUL! THE ONE AND ONLY PAUL MCCARTNEY!

[fabboy]

Does anyone else here also see the slight lag in Paul's left eye? Just like JPM1. I see it.

[JoJo]

Welcome fabboy.

When you talk of the left eye, do you mean how it appears to sit lower than the right? In the 1984 video, it's like that, yes.

Thanks for saying in one of your posts we are open minded.. Yes we are, as much as a collection of people with differing strong opinions can be. Add to that, human nature is such that once one becomes invested in their conclusion of how things played out, they are loath to shift gears.

What I'm saying I guess is that within out little sub-culture, the idea of a surviving original Paul AND a replacement ruffles some feathers, so be forewarned.

For my part (and it's just one man's opinion) if I was gonna make a best guess about what happened, it would most closely resemble your scenario.. Only because to this day the McCartney creative output loves to hint at "two Pauls".

[fabboy]

Dec 29, 2010 23:08:59 GMT -5 JoJo said:

Welcome fabboy.

When you talk of the left eye, do you mean how it appears to sit lower than the right? In the 1984 video, it's like that, yes.

Thanks for saying in one of your posts we are open minded.. Yes we are, as much as a collection of people with differing strong opinions can be. Add to that, human nature is such that once one becomes invested in their conclusion of how things played out, they are loath to shift gears.

What I'm saying I guess is that within out little sub-culture, the idea of a surviving original Paul AND a replacement ruffles some feathers, so be forewarned.

For my part (and it's just one man's opinion) if I was gonna make a best guess about what happened, it would most closely resemble your scenario.. Only because to this day the McCartney creative output loves to hint at "two Pauls".

Thanks for the kind words Jojo. I totally understand that many people feel that Paul is dead. That's cool. I'm not here to change minds, just to add my humble opinion. but i'll stay on this board cuz of the open mindedness. The PID is a one way ticket that i don't want to ride on and before i settled here, i completely checked out that site and all its threads and believe it or not, i was of the belief that paul was killed, until a guy named 'SCATTERBOX', opened my eyes to a new way of looking at this and from then on, i've seen the 'light', so to speak.

And yes i was referring to how his left eye sags a bit. Just like the original JPMs did. We definitely live in interesting times.

[ramone]

Dec 29, 2010 9:29:52 GMT -5 P(D)enny La(i)ne said:

Dec 29, 2010 0:04:55 GMT -5 fabboy said:

Hey guys, first post here. PAUL didn't die. He planned it all way back in early 66, probably thought about it sometime in '65 during help. MANY MANY SONG CLUES from the albums leading up to PEPPER. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE REAL PAUL, go to YOUTUBE and type in PAUL MCCARTNEY ON CHANNEL 4 NEWS (1984)>THAT IS THE JPM1. LOOK AT THE FACE, LISTEN TO THE ACCENT. IT IS NOT FAUL. GUYS, good old JPM PULLED a fast one on all of us. the real clues were the secondary clues in those late 60s beatles records, not the blatant DEATH CLUES. JUST LOOK AT THE FACE on that youtube interview>NOT LONG, BUT ROUNDED, JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL.

Here's the interview fabboy is referring to.

If that IS JPM, he's doing a killer imitation of Billy boy doing his imitation of JPM.


Here's one - same time period:



Looks the same to me really, and this guy that got into trouble was I think, no doubt, the Bill married to Linda that has been the 'Paul' everyone's been exposed to.
Keep in mind his mannerisms are (or were) supposed to be like JPM's.
But a careful look will show, I think, that JPM had his own characteristic mannerisms that Bill didn't completely pick up.
I think watching vids from that time period you'll see mannerisms that are 'Bill'
that carry right over and can be seen in the present.

[fabboy]

EXCELLENT observations Ramone!!!!

[eyesbleed]

Dec 29, 2010 23:08:59 GMT -5 JoJo said:

Welcome fabboy.

What I'm saying I guess is that within out little sub-culture, the idea of a surviving original Paul AND a replacement ruffles some feathers, so be forewarned.

I could be wrong but it seems to me that over the last 2-3 yrs, this forum has become pretty evenly divided between the PID camp & the PWR camp.
There's not as much fevered debate on this as there used to be. I think everybody's made up their minds on where they stand on the big PID/PWR question.